Fiat 131 Engine

  
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The croma engine dident fit, so I bought an Fiat 131 engine.

It diddent fit on the fso 4-speed gearbox.
I have an 5-speed 131 gearbox an one fiat 124 5-speed gearbox.

How can i get them to fit..? Please help....

  
 
On the beggining:
Sorry for so long time with my answer. Usually I don't read an english forum.
What kind of the 131's engine have You?
It is important to fix Your car.


I have a 125p pick-up with a 1.4DOHC engine and 5-gearbox from f131. See pictures from rebuillding:
http://www.pbase.com/adriank14/pocz_remontu_pikapa_18_06_2005
http://www.pbase.com/adriank14/2526_06_2005
http://www.pbase.com/adriank15/remontu_pikapa_cig_dalszy_1617_07_2005
http://www.pbase.com/adriank16/uklkierowniczy_pikapa_1314_08
http://www.pbase.com/adriank17/24_09_2005_remontu_pikapa_cd


[ wiadomość edytowana przez: AdrianK dnia 2006-10-05 17:18:38 ]
  
 
Hi!

I've a Fiat 131 1600ccm Mirafori CL SOHC engine in my 125P.
I love it!
Some info:
Fiat 125P Mirafiori
  
 
Greetings from Ladaclub Czech and Slovak Republic!

I ve got Fiat 131 1600 DOHC engine and I need more infos how to improve it? What candles are the best?etc.

Last thing: Is it possible to iplant Fiat 131 supermirafiori differencial into Lada? Im afraid I ve got too powerful engine for Lada one
  
 
Cytat:
2006-10-29 01:50:17, Pavel04 pisze:
What candles are the best?



You mean spark plugs?
  
 
Yes plugs
I mean "swiece"
  
 
I think that Iskra od even Brisk(PAL) spark plugs are good as other, like Bosch, Champion or NGK.
  
 
Of course Brisk, but whitch ones?
  
 
Hi how much is possible to get down the head(or block) and what compression ratio it does?
  
 

A small idea, if you are next to disasemble the engine and rebuilt it as new, better if you buy high compresions, and dont touch the cilinders head, and in chase of over heating you can fix the cilinder head more times that if you down it and it will be with a less of body. Me do it some time ago, and when a time the temperature rise enough when try to fix this cilinder head cant´be fixed.
For this reason me buy special pistons this time and a new cilinder head.

With a 1mm down, 10.5 :1........

About the 131 gear ratio, me try one time to use only the gear ratio from a Lada 2105 in my 125 but cant fix it, it was smoller than the Fiat 125 gear ratio body.
I dont know if can understand well, please if cant say me!

Greeetings!
  
 
well
I´m afraid I didn´t understand well.
So I´m really near to disassemble engine.

"better if you buy high compresions, and dont touch the cilinders head, and in chase of over heating you can fix the cilinder head more times that if you down it and it will be with a less of body"

I understand that itś not good to get the head down. But what means "to buy high compressions"?


"Me do it some time ago, and when a time the temperature rise enough when try to fix this cilinder head cant´be fixed.
"
I understand

"About the 131 gear ratio, me try one time to use only the gear ratio from a Lada 2105 in my 125 but cant fix it, it was smoller than the Fiat 125 gear ratio body.
I dont know if can understand well, please if cant say me! "

Do you mean the gearbox? Itś really smaller. I have 2107 gearbox with 5 speeds. Itś also possible to use 131 gearbox into lada but it´s a little bit shorter (so you need use first part of cardan from 131) and it has starter on the other side of the box and you have to magnify tunnel for 131 gearbox´. So it´s possible in the other way as well I think. And there´s one improve of hydraulic controlled connection between engine and gearbox (I don´t know the right word in english. It´s "spojka" in czech).


So what´s the popular improvement of 131 DOHC engine?


  
 
And another thing: Is here any chance to buy some tuned cams for 131 DOHC 1600???
  
 
send a message to "pavlus"
  
 
HI another question:

How high rotations are available on 131 1600 DOHC engine? I don´t care about the official numbers, but real numbers.

For example my friend has 7500 rpm on Lada tuned engine, but it is available on serial one too. Is it also possible on 131 one???

Now I m thinking about turbo from lancia delta HF? whayt do you think about that?

[ wiadomość edytowana przez: Pavel04 dnia 2006-12-27 02:40:28 ]
  
 
Cytat:
2006-10-05 17:05:47, AdrianK pisze:
On the beggining: Sorry for so long time with my answer. Usually I don't read an english forum. What kind of the 131's engine have You? It is important to fix Your car. I have a 125p pick-up with a 1.4DOHC engine and 5-gearbox from f131. See pictures from rebuillding: http://www.pbase.com/adriank14/pocz_remontu_pikapa_18_06_2005 http://www.pbase.com/adriank14/2526_06_2005 http://www.pbase.com/adriank15/remontu_pikapa_cig_dalszy_1617_07_2005 http://www.pbase.com/adriank16/uklkierowniczy_pikapa_1314_08 http://www.pbase.com/adriank17/24_09_2005_remontu_pikapa_cd [ wiadomość edytowana przez: AdrianK dnia 2006-10-05 17:18:38 ]



Thank you for answers.

I have some new questions about the engine and gearbox.

Did the engine fit right on the originally engine mounts?
Did the 5-speed gearbox fit with the originally propeller shaft?

[ wiadomość edytowana przez: polmo dnia 2007-01-01 12:07:43 ]
  
 
Cytat:
2007-01-01 12:07:17, polmo pisze:
Thank you for answers. I have some new questions about the engine and gearbox. Did the engine fit right on the originally engine mounts? Did the 5-speed gearbox fit with the originally propeller shaft? [ wiadomość edytowana przez: polmo dnia 2007-01-01 12:07:43 ]



OT: have you picture of your car? you'r avatar is great
  
 
Here are some pictures of my brown 1977, 125p:







Apologize the crappy quality on the pictures. New, fresh and better pictures are coming in may - april

Its the brown 125p i am putting the 131 1600cc engine in. I am still wondering about the engine mounts, and the propeller (drive) shaft...? Anyone know?

I also have one blue 1974, 125p. For this car i have other plans. I hope to put one ritmo abarth 130tc engine under the hood! But that is after the brown one are finished!

Please help with the brown. I promise to update recent with fresh pictures of the project!
  
 
Anybody? Please Help...!
  
 
Is it possible ro upgrade from 1600DOHC to 2000DOHC using bigger stroke? 1600 is 84 x 71 I mean and 2000 is also 84 but x 90. Does it pass on 1600 block? Is it possible to use the same head etc?